Comments on: Support for Shepard http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/ The art of James White Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:44:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Support for Shepard Fairey (via Signalnoise.com) » Dragonize http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-11370 Support for Shepard Fairey (via Signalnoise.com) » Dragonize Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:22:52 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-11370 [...] Signalnoise.com | The art of James White » Support for Shepard Spread the word: [...] [...] Signalnoise.com | The art of James White » Support for Shepard Spread the word: [...]

]]> By: FuckObey http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7913 FuckObey Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:05:40 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7913 In the case of the Obama poster, I don't have a problem with it because it was a photograph. But when he 'appropriates' other DESIGNS...that's another story. There isn't an original bone in his body. In the case of the Obama poster, I don’t have a problem with it because it was a photograph. But when he ‘appropriates’ other DESIGNS…that’s another story. There isn’t an original bone in his body.

]]> By: ArcDuke http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7899 ArcDuke Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:51:53 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7899 Apologies if I sounded glib - I enjoy your work and wouldn't have seen this conversation if I didn't already subscribe to your RSS. My comment was aimed more at the discussion around Fairey, fair use, and attribution to "found" images. Only Fairey knows what his true intentions were with disseminating the image, but I do know that in all its incarnations I've never seen it with an Obey logo at the bottom. From my perspective, Fairey's symbology and work speak for themselves, as do, I think, yours, since I can spot a "signalnoise" image used around the web pretty quickly. I think that if I had the chops and mettle to produce such public work and let it into the wild that my support for Fairey would observe the same detachment from origin and explicit authorship that his used in this case. Where "ownership" takes hold (or when an "owner" opts to take hold of it) when you're talking about interpretation influencing further interpretation is something that designers and artists have been grappling with for a while and it's not gonna get any easier! I think I just had a sudden feeling of irony when I saw the pairing of "Support" with authorship and at the same time a message (with regards to Fairey) of non-authorship. Apologies if I sounded glib – I enjoy your work and wouldn’t have seen this conversation if I didn’t already subscribe to your RSS.

My comment was aimed more at the discussion around Fairey, fair use, and attribution to “found” images. Only Fairey knows what his true intentions were with disseminating the image, but I do know that in all its incarnations I’ve never seen it with an Obey logo at the bottom. From my perspective, Fairey’s symbology and work speak for themselves, as do, I think, yours, since I can spot a “signalnoise” image used around the web pretty quickly. I think that if I had the chops and mettle to produce such public work and let it into the wild that my support for Fairey would observe the same detachment from origin and explicit authorship that his used in this case.

Where “ownership” takes hold (or when an “owner” opts to take hold of it) when you’re talking about interpretation influencing further interpretation is something that designers and artists have been grappling with for a while and it’s not gonna get any easier! I think I just had a sudden feeling of irony when I saw the pairing of “Support” with authorship and at the same time a message (with regards to Fairey) of non-authorship.

]]> By: james http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7897 james Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:01:31 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7897 Mike, this is the first time I've heard about the Steelers incident, thanks for giving me the heads up. Doesn't really fall into right category given the Hope poster ordeal, huh? I'll be watching how that plays out as it seems very strange and contradictory. Appreciate the links, man. ArcDuke, not really sure what you mean. I put my name/website on everything I create. Can you clarify why you think it's ironic? Mike, this is the first time I’ve heard about the Steelers incident, thanks for giving me the heads up. Doesn’t really fall into right category given the Hope poster ordeal, huh? I’ll be watching how that plays out as it seems very strange and contradictory. Appreciate the links, man.

ArcDuke, not really sure what you mean. I put my name/website on everything I create. Can you clarify why you think it’s ironic?

]]> By: ArcDuke http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7889 ArcDuke Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:27:30 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7889 Nice poster, but putting your name / website copy on the bottom is a bit ironic in relation to the Fairey issue. Nice poster, but putting your name / website copy on the bottom is a bit ironic in relation to the Fairey issue.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7879 Mike Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:16:01 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7879 James: are you sure you want to support Shepard on this one? I mean, I love his work as much as the next guy, and like you I always supported his work, but his recent lawsuit (not the Obama one, but the Steeler's baby one) http://www.pittsburghcitypaper.ws/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A59932 Yes! It's true, its like he decided to ignore his own past, and took the roll of the big corporation that he one day fought against. I still can't believe it. It makes me question everything he's done, and after a long though I think that if he is going to sue ANYONE for plagiarism then Erik Brunetti, should come to light and put him in his place. Images speak louder than words, but If you never heard of Fuct™, it's time for you to take a look and re-organize your thoughts. http://www.brghtnghts.com/blog/?page_id=46 James:
are you sure you want to support Shepard on this one? I mean, I love his work as much as the next guy, and like you I always supported his work, but his recent lawsuit (not the Obama one, but the Steeler’s baby one) http://www.pittsburghcitypaper.ws/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A59932

Yes!
It’s true, its like he decided to ignore his own past, and took the roll of the big corporation that he one day fought against. I still can’t believe it.

It makes me question everything he’s done, and after a long though I think that if he is going to sue ANYONE for plagiarism then Erik Brunetti, should come to light and put him in his place.

Images speak louder than words, but If you never heard of Fuct™, it’s time for you to take a look and re-organize your thoughts.

http://www.brghtnghts.com/blog/?page_id=46

]]> By: Darren http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7759 Darren Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:01:19 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7759 Shepard may not be the most original artist, or law abiding citizen for that matter. But the guy gets up. Everywhere! He's a man of action. Shepard pushes his work harder than any other artist I can think of and that's what it really comes down to. You could be kicking ass way harder and using all original material, but if you don't get seen the way he does, how would anyone know? The art for Obama was a tool to get the man elected, and it worked. Shepard may not be the most original artist, or law abiding citizen for that matter. But the guy gets up. Everywhere! He’s a man of action.

Shepard pushes his work harder than any other artist I can think of and that’s what it really comes down to.

You could be kicking ass way harder and using all original material, but if you don’t get seen the way he does, how would anyone know?

The art for Obama was a tool to get the man elected, and it worked.

]]> By: james http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7651 james Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:53:01 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7651 Pienose and Florenz, I used a combination of Bookman Regular and Bookman Swash. Sometimes too many of the swash characters in the same phrase is too much, so I mix it up to keep the big swoops to a minimum :) Pienose and Florenz, I used a combination of Bookman Regular and Bookman Swash. Sometimes too many of the swash characters in the same phrase is too much, so I mix it up to keep the big swoops to a minimum :)

]]> By: Florenz http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7650 Florenz Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:27:58 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7650 Like pienose i am also interested in the font. What the name? At first i thought it was the Bookman Swash, but seems like not. Please tell me! Like pienose i am also interested in the font. What the name? At first i thought it was the Bookman Swash, but seems like not.
Please tell me!

]]> By: Simon Page http://blog.signalnoise.com/2009/02/25/support-for-shepard/comment-page-1/#comment-7637 Simon Page Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:01:30 +0000 http://blog.signalnoise.com/?p=676#comment-7637 It will be interesting to see how this all pans out and what impact it has. But at the end of the day, man what an "awesome font!" It will be interesting to see how this all pans out and what impact it has. But at the end of the day, man what an “awesome font!”

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